We label acts as terrorism and then we sort of adopt that same label to describe people who commit those acts. Shortly after that story broke, we also issued a warning of sorts; our piece about Zello, a walkie talkie app that's home to militia organizing and recruitment. Vigilante comes to mind. A couple local politicians and at least a couple armed militias, including the Michigan Home Guard, are preparing to attend. Isn't that these are unregulated paramilitaries, not only independent of government, but often hostile to government. [END CLIP], Stand back and stand by, he told them. BROOKE GLADSTONE In a written statement in October, Moore told us that Zello had implemented several changes to make these militia channels harder, at least for outsiders to find but he said he wouldn't shut them down because he believed it's not the job of a private company to censor private speech, and also because Zello couldn't possibly monitor all the content on its platform anyway. That was Whitmer, and yes, there has been action. Three months after we first confronted them with this evidence, Zello says it's taking potential militia events around the inauguration very seriously and that far right groups are no longer allowed on its platform. Here was an armed vigilante who use social media to find other armed vigilantes. They draw very heavily from former soldiers and former police officers and in some cases, active police officers. What interested you in the three percent movement where you heard about the three percent? But it wasn't until days later that I realized I had captured something quite interesting. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. So, yes, easy to connect those dots. Copyright © 2021 New York Public Radio. [END CLIP]. SAM JACKSON I'll offer a caveat before I do that, though, which is I tend to think of this as a movement rather than focusing in on groups. [END CLIP]. MICAH LOEWINGER Rittenhouse provides a template for examining how violence might unfold in the coming months. This summer, Facebook deleted thousands of militia pages. That's terrifying, because now they have a reason. She's white and she wears glasses beneath a big combat … And they found my pictures that I had taken from earlier in November and pieced them together. Although the gentleman who came up with the idea, the three percenters, his name is Mike Vanderboegh. Back then, it was seen as a warning of what was to come. So now when you Google Zello Three Percent or Zello Nazi, those channels don't show up, but you can still find them by searching on Zello. On the Media is a production of WNYC Studios, I'm Brooke Gladstone. HOME GUARD 2 Well, that's not shady, at all. PROTESTERS And this time that we speak up, we stand up and we make the world know that Black Lives Matter. And that's persisting, now. And if possible, we'll will give it. I basically just want them to keep a low profile. Nor would Zello implement new moderation practices to deter this type of organizing in the future. He recognized her face when he came across this exact same footage after receiving a tip on Twitter. Oath Keepers formed in 2009. [END CLIP]. The community really banded together and had other activities to do. RECRUIT I ain't got nothing holding me back. Actual is a term that usually refers to a company leader. MICAH LOEWINGER To an outsider hearing this kind of talk, it plays in to a perception that it's a big LARP. On Wednesday evening, Hampton and I published these findings in The Guardian, and then two hours later.. HAMPTON STALL Zello released a statement on their site saying that they were appalled by the organizing that was happening on their app and that they were banning two thousand channels. The language we use to put a name to the various activities and pathologies on the violent far-right. There are 100 million gun owners in America, so that's three million people. Let me see it! We're not at that threshold, are we? stay safe. We got to be ready. And then later came out publicly and said he did not do that. [END CLIP]. For On the Media, I'm Micah Loewinger. A few weeks later, word begins to spread that there's an upcoming Black Lives Matter protests in the works. One, de-index, all pages of user generated content, which includes the far right stuff from search engines. A solid copy of that intel you gave me. But he never caught her name. These groups have drawn the media spotlight this year by rallying behind a steady stream of culture war causes. RECRUITER So what do you got? We are rocking it, they're throwing grenades. MICAH LOEWINGER The COVID lockdown protests in Michigan. Some miltia's we found operate several Zello channels at the same time. There was a rumor that spread in the Michigan Home Guard Zello group that even after he made that video, he secretly said, no, Michigan Home Guard should come. So … Hey, this fate will happen to you as well if you also engage in similar sorts of activity, or if they were much more instrumentally, just thinking this governor is a problem. I ain't got nothing holding me back. That was the only one. Someone broke into the door and opened it, and we had a lot of people going inside. She uploaded a picture of herself at the DC event wearing battle rattle and an Oath Keeper patch. So for the Boogaloo folks, they think that soon we're going to see Civil War two Electric Boogaloo. Monitoring Zello, we did hear some references to violence surrounding the election, but it was about how to react to it. Zello responded to us, saying that, quote, The employees characterization is inaccurate and misleading. So Livingston County sheriff there requested Hungary and other vetted militia groups to come and help him with extra security. BOB GARFIELD Three percent is 10 million people in the United States. Of the 800 plus, the majority of them are now offline, either deleted by the users or removed by Zello itself, but they still have left up some 3 Percent and other militia associated channels. Since Zuckerman hadn't heard these tapes before he interviewed her, he couldn't ask her about some of the things she'd said, like, quote, sticking to the plan or the fact that she was in a group of 30 to 40 people or that she had allegedly trained for this moment. BROOKE GLADSTONE And I'm Brooke Gladstone. “Zello simply cannot actively monitor millions of concurrent discussions,” the company told “On the Media” in October, long before the Trump terrorists stormed the Capitol. One for interviewing new recruits, one for leaders to discuss operations, one for training in the woods and another for sharing intel in small talk. I'm the man of the house, so, you know, if I need to go somewhere or do something that's going to happen. According to Zella's own terms of service, the app can remove anything that, quote, represents promotion of celebration with violent extremist ideologies, groups and tactics. MICAH LOEWINGER That's a good point. How Zello failed to moderate and monitor its far-right user base until it was too late:... Jump to. Members of the Michigan militia say they will take action to keep Nanking from going to jail. Sheriff Michael Murphy denied that he was in contact with the militia. There was the gun rally in Virginia, known as lobby day. What we saw was this language around three percenters emerged around the two thousand eight point, and people around the country started adopting that rhetoric. BOB GARFIELD Strictly speaking, terrorism is political violence that is committed in order to focus attention on the cause. A smaller app that has long incubated far right groups. I'm going to protect Trump from election meddling. I do want to push back a little bit on something, which is that some of these militia groups are explicitly white supremacist. Over the course of a number of decades, what was originally described as the militia through a series of incremental changes in law became the National Guard. Probably five times today, different reporters, five times yesterday every single day. HAMPTON STALL There will probably be some disruption from Zello use to organize for that. JAKE ZUCKERMAN Jessica Watkins, she's thirty eight, she was a veteran, she served in Afghanistan and she's a bartender who in late twenty nineteen or early twenty twenty, just formed this Ohio State Regular militia group. That woman narrating her march towards the capital is a user calling herself "Ohio Regulars, Actual Oath keeper." HAMPTON STALL It's very common for militias to either go on roofs or go around corners and just be staged nearby. MICAH LOEWINGER Three months after we first confronted them with this evidence, Zello says it's taking potential militia events around the inauguration very seriously and that far right groups are no longer allowed on its platform. Sections of this page. BROOKE GLADSTONE This is On the Media, I'm Brooke Gladstone. In a written statement in October, Moore told us that Zello had implemented several changes to make these militia channels harder, at least for outsiders to find but he said he wouldn't shut them down because he believed it's not the job of a private company to censor private speech, and also because Zello couldn't possibly monitor all the content on its platform anyway. Does someone need to commit an act of terrorism to be a terrorist? BROOKE GLADSTONE Zip ties or more accurately, flex cuffs, hinted at the intention to take hostages, as many in the media noted. Copyright © 2020 New York Public Radio. Zello PTT Walkie Talkie - Android App 4.67 Englisch: Mit der kostenlosen App Zello verwandeln Sie Ihr Smartphone in ein Walkie-Talkie. Do they just need to express admiration for or support for an act of terrorism? They're not even trying to stop us at this point. On the Media is produced by Alana Casanova-Burgess, Micah Loewinger, Leah Feder, Jon Hanrahan, and Eloise Blondiau with help from Ava Sasani. One for interviewing new recruits, one for leaders to discuss operations, one for training in the woods and another for sharing intel in small talk. Ford zooms in on one of the people involved and a patch that he has on his back that says, I don't believe in anything. They are protesting a wave of gun control measures being proposed by the newly elected Democrat. But some of the more violent individuals and organizers are still up on Zello at time of recording. The employee sent us a company-wide e-mail from June that detailed some of the militia and white nationalist activity on the app. [END CLIP], MILTIA MEMBER 2 Yeah, Roger that, sir. From now until November 3rd, at least, we'll be concerned about the potential for violence around the election. Send it. By the time I found this profile, Parler had already been shut down. BOB GARFIELD Sam Jackson is a professor of emergency preparedness, homeland security and cybersecurity at the University at Albany. Vigilantes, of course, are not law enforcement. Wired/Bluetooth … How can they be deterred? [END CLIP]. We don't need to do anything to tarnish that. BOB GARFIELD What about the Three Percenters? She's white and she wears glasses beneath a big combat helmet, and according to her profile, she's a bartender and she blames Ohio Governor Mike DeWine’s lock down for hurting her business, but still no name. How could I possibly be racist? Start Free Trial Contact us. The three percent security force militia denied that they had contact with the police. So she's referencing that she is in some level of leadership of the Ohio Regulars, and then the Oath Keepers are a pretty radical right wing national militia movement who were founded in 2009 in direct response to Barack Obama winning the 2008 election. They attend protests. [END CLIP]. Since this setting is vital for the security of your network, we don't recommend disabling TLS unless directed by Zello Support, or you are troubleshooting specific devices on a local network. All million of us. If it kills me, it kills me. MILITIA We'll see you soon, Jess. We got about 30 or 40 of us. MICAH LOEWINGER Zuckerman eventually called the woman who candidly admitted to storming the Capitol with the Oath Keepers and members of her Ohio militia. You'd think it would be hard for Zello corporate to miss what's happening on their own platform. And they actually went through the trouble of writing up formal bylaws for their organization. Instead, Three Percenters refers to this dubious notion that three percent of those who lived in the British colonies in the late 18th century fought back against the British and won America's independence. The employee sent us a company wide email from June that detailed some of the militia and white nationalist activity on the app. HOME GUARD So Livingston County sheriff there requested Hungary and other vetted militia groups to come and help him with extra security. Oh, there's gonna be all this, you know, riots in the streets, we gotta be ready, guys. Let history show that I stood up against this tyranny, but I'm not gonna fall because I'm a warrior, and I'm going to kick some f*ckin' ass [END CLIP]. We've discussed them on the show. from New York Public Radio in accordance with our Terms of Use. Oh, there's gonna be all this, you know, riots in the streets, we gotta be ready, guys. The neo-Nazi Atomwaffen Division now rebranded as the National Socialist Order linked to five murders. MILITIA Amen, sister. But Rittenhouse was overwhelmed when he found it, and so he shot his way out. [END CLIP]. We got to be ready. SAM JACKSON Boogaloo fundamentally refers to this idea that America is soon to face a second civil war. Back in the mid 90s, there was a KKK rally held on the steps of the old courthouse. Well, Micah was monitoring the app, and this is what he heard on January 6th. [END CLIP]. And there are a lot of folks right now who have been socially isolated for a very long period of time, and have been reaching out through social media because they don't know how to assess the risks posed by the pandemic political environment that we're in. Some random people of Twitter just started piecing together and Google image searching. We have to stay vigilant, stay well trained and maintain our composure so that we don't ever fire that first shot. So for the Boogaloo folks, they think that soon we're going to see Civil War two Electric Boogaloo. HAMPTON STALL It's interesting because Ohio Regulars is an identified militia group. As per The Guardian, two rioters used the voice messaging app to talk with each other people who were icniting them from distant locations. To me after speaking to her at length on the phone and meeting her once, it really did sound like a match. So Oath Keepers is a really prominent group within this movement now. We've discussed them on the show. [END CLIP]. The ways in which those groups come together and do recruitment through platforms really has to do with them unapologetically believing that they can actually become a proxy for law enforcement. Zello is a push-to-talk walkie-talkie app that allows users to create group communication lines across great distances, requiring only an internet or cellular data connection to broadcast one’s voice to a select audience across limitless miles. MICAH LOEWINGER Jessica Watkins could not be reached for comment. Back then, it was seen as a warning of what was to come. SAM JACKSON No. ... Zello responded to us saying that, quote, The employees characterization is inaccurate and misleading, end quote. They're not accountable to the public or trained to de-escalate violence. JOAN DONOVAN And there are a lot of folks right now who have been socially isolated for a very long period of time, and have been reaching out through social media because they don't know how to assess the risks posed by the pandemic political environment that we're in. But the vast majority of such channels belong to Three Percenter militias. Oh, sweet mother of God. The three percent security force militia denied that they had contact with the police. But first, let's consider yet a third kind of connection. Live Voice Playback. That distinction breaks down a little bit when you look at their actual actions. And as we learned recently, she made it down to Washington, DC and made it inside the Capitol. And while it may be true that some of these actors, like those who are accused in Michigan in this plot to kidnap the governor, while it may be true that they think of themselves as trying to enforce the law, I think that vigilante maybe gives a little bit too much credence to that. What kind of numbers do we have going into the capital? Our engineers this week were Adrian Lilly and Josh Hahn. For those in militia groups, the identity that they're organizing around is a patriotic one or a nationalist one, not a racial one,. What kind of experience you got? Zello has implemented TLS (Transport Layer Security) to strengthen encryption between all server-client connections. SAM JACKSON Exactly. For On the Media, I'm Micah Loewinger. [END CLIP], It's like a second job. MICAH LOEWINGER She did not see very many police officers there and she did not see any militia guys there. Dude, this might be her! Very rich guys? If this did happen, then the police and the militia were out of sight off to the side. So what do you got? He does not want any 2A people there to stay away. What kind of experience you got? They packed up and left. She's white and she wears glasses beneath a big combat helmet, and according to her profile, she's a bartender and she blames Ohio Governor Mike DeWine’s lock down for hurting her business, but still no name. The second wave that began in 2008, there are two dominant factions. Open Zello App Go to Options Select Push-to-Talk Buttons; Plug in Headset ( 1 or 3 Button) Select Add Button; Press Media Button on Headset, Headset Hook is setup; Go to Zello Contacts > Select user, you want to talk. In footage shared by Ford Fischer of News2Share. Exactly. [END CLIP], MILITIA Once we go operational, this channel will just be for intel gathering and organizing on the back side. We're sticking together and sticking to the plan. She walked with the protesters, about 150 of them,. Oath Keepers formed in 2009. SAM JACKSON When I think of vigilante's, I think of Wild West Frontier Towns. There's a lot of work that happens that isn't super visible. Our technical director is Jennifer Munson. But a group of hackers effectively scraped the entire website and uploaded tens of thousands of posts from January 6th to archive(dot)org so that researchers and journalists could sift through all the data. If Hampton and I alone could locate 200 far right groups ranging from Oath Keepers to straight up Nazis. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. The Douglas County Sheriff's Department did not respond to our request for comment. Did the press just get suckered into accepting this constitutionally memorialized term? That woman narrating her march towards the capital is a user calling herself "Ohio Regulars, Actual Oath keeper." Right. Now, this is a little bit more complicated, of course, than than these actors would like to portray it because there is still bigotry within their ranks. Military police. There's a lot we still don't know about Watkins and how Zello factored into the siege. But the vast majority of such channels belong to Three Percenter militias. MICAH LOEWINGER That's Hampton Stall, an Atlanta based researcher and founder of a blog called Militia Watch. On Tuesday, we sent Zello a huge email outlining the evidence that its app had been used by insurrectionists, along with a list of over 800 far right channels. This is a militia members speaking on a walkie talkie app called Zello . And it's a reason that makes them look like a hero. MICAH LOEWINGER Sheriff Michael Murphy denied that he was in contact with the militia. We merely lurked in the background. MICAH LOEWINGER As part of the evidence that we sent to Zello, we told them that some far right channels were encouraging Trump supporters to show up armed to state capitals on the 17th. They're fricking shooting people with paintballs, but we're in here. Did she say why she broke into the Capitol? Megan Squire, a professor of computer science at Elon University, has been tracking discussions of the election from far right groups online. Do they know that you on an interview tonight? [END CLIP]. Navigate to a history screen of the channel or user who sent the prohibited content; Tap Share icon We fired the first shot, we're done. Since Zuckerman hadn't heard these tapes before he interviewed her, he couldn't ask her about some of the things she'd said, like, quote, sticking to the plan or the fact that she was in a group of 30 to 40 people or that she had allegedly trained for this moment. That's the warning in this Facebook post made Tuesday afternoon. Internet sleuths, on the other hand, had some theories. To stop the destruction of property or to stop people from fighting with police, I think it's important to take that with a grain of salt, because this is a person who drove across state lines and joined this mob break in of the Capitol or whatever language you want to use, but in her telling of events, she's almost like a police force in a way or some kind of first responder unit. Copyright © 2020 New York Public Radio. Stand back and stand by. It was like a very joyful, family oriented feeling of people assembling for the march in the parking lot of the shopping mall on the weekend. WATKINS We have a good group. If Zello is not already installed, go to Google Play and download it. MICAH LOEWINGER I think it's a little problematic to compare the KKK to Black Lives Matter protesters. MICAH LOEWINGER There was a rumor that spread in the Michigan Home Guard Zello group that even after he made that video, he secretly said, no, Michigan Home Guard should come. Police call it a false rumor that claimed ANTIFA had three bus loads of members ready to hit neighborhoods in. Everything we f*ckin trained for. What kind of experience you got? The Black Lives Matter protests sparked by the murder of George Floyd. MICAH LOEWINGER The next day, the sheriff posted to Facebook denying this rumor. The heightened polarization, the increased visibility of these armed groups, combined with the anxiety and anger about the news, drove prospective recruits to right wing forums and Facebook groups where militia guys shared passwords with step by step instructions about how to join their zealot channels. And one of the clauses in their bylaws is that they prohibit anyone who has ever previously been affiliated with a racist organization from joining their group. So I sent you some of the Zello clips. I hope those are different three percents. It looks like we are going into the fray too much to keep us in your prayers. 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